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  • The Timetables listed here have appeared in various forms at the dates stated. an attempt has been made to keep them in the present day accepted format, albeit still using the a.m/p.m style of the originals. They have been taken from various sources. The use of "UP" and "DOWN" appears as on original source. Comments appear at the bottom of each section.

Where numbers and "am / pm" appear in the header, this is how it appears on originals


Contents

[edit] No. 1 Date 16th September 1856

Down
A/D 6 1 2 3 4 5 6
Quarry Dep 7.30 9.28 11.16 1.14 3.12 5.10
Tunnel Arr 7.48 9.36 11.34 1.32 3.30 5.28
Tunnel Dep 7.48 9.46 11.44 1.42 3.40 5.38
Hafod y Llyn Arr 8.06 10.04 12.02 2.00 3.58 5.56
Hafod y Llyn Dep 8.16 10.14 12.12 2.10 4.08 6.06
Rhiw Goch Arr 8.34 10.32 12.30 2.28 4.26 6.24
Rhiw Goch Dep 6.46 8.44 10.42 12.40 2.38 4.36 *
Cae Ednyfed
Boston Lodge Arr 7.04 9.02 11.00 11.16 1.14 4.54


Up
A/D 6 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
Boston Lodge Dep 7.14 9.12 11.10 1.08 3.06 5.04
Cae Ednyfed Dep 5.54 5.34
Rhiw Goch Arr 8.34 10.32 12.30 2.28 4.26
Rhiw Goch Dep 6.46 8.44 10.42 12.40 2.38 4.36 6.34
p.m.
Hafod y Llyn Arr 8.06 10.04 12.02 2.00 3.58 5.56 7.54
Hafod y Llyn Dep 6.28 8.16 10.14 12.12 2.10 4.08 6.06
Tunnel Arr 9.36 11.34 1.32 3.30 5.28 7.26
Tunnel Dep 7.58 9.46 11.44 1.42 3.40 5.38
pm
Quarry Arr 9.18 11.06 1.04 3.02 5.00 6.58


There are a number of inconsistencies in this table, which are not explained. Least of which is the unbalanced 6 down and 7 up trains! The 6.24 pm Down arrival at Rhiw Goch, continued to Cae Ednyfed and stayed overnight, becoming the 5.54 am up Departure from there. The 6.28 am Up departure from Hafod y Llyn, was a empty stock working

[edit] No. 2 Date October 1863

Up
A/D am am am pm pm pm
Portmadoc Dep 7.00 9.00 11.00 1.00 3.00 5.00
Penrhyn Arr 7.20 9.20 11.20 1.20 3.20 5.20
Penrhyn Dep 7.25 9.25 11.25 1.25 3.25 5.25
Hafod y Llyn Arr 7.50 9.50 11.50 1.50 3.50 5.50
Hafod y Llyn Dep 8.00 10.00 12.00 2.00 4.00 6.00
Tanygrisiau Arr 8.35 10.35 12.35 2.35 4.35 6.35
Tanygrisiau Dep 8.40 10.40 12.40 2.40 4.40 6.40
Rhiw Arr 8.50 10.50 12.50 2.50 4.50 6.50


Down
A/D am am am pm pm pm
Rhiw Dep .7.00 .9.00 11.00 .1.00 .3.00 .5.00
Tanygrisiau Arr .7.10 .9.10 11.10 .1.10 .3.10 .5.10
Tanygrisiau Dep .7.15 .9.15 11.15 .1.15 .3.15 .5.15
Hafod y Llyn Arr .7.50 .9.50 11.50 .1.50 .3.50 .5.50
Hafod y Llyn Dep .8.00 10.00 12.00 .2.00 .4.00 .6.00
Penrhyn Arr .8.25 .9.25 11.25 .1.25 .3.25 .5.25
Penrhyn Dep .8.30 .9.30 11.30 .1.30 .3.30 .5.30
Porthmadog Arr .8.50 10.50 12.50 .2.50 .4.50 .6.50


The clean line and symmetry of the above is not as it first appeared, being split between two timetables centred on Hafod y Llyn

[edit] No. 3 Date 1st January 1865

Weekdays only

Up
A/D am am am pm pm
Portmadoc Dep .6.57 .9.15 11.33 .2.01 .4.19
Penrhyn Dep .7.15 .9.33 11.51 .2.19 .4.37
Hafod y Llyn Dep .7.45 10.03 12.21 .2.49 .5.07
Dinas Arr .8.32 10.50 .1.08 .3.36 .5.54


Down
A/D am am am pm pm
Dinas Dep .7.05 .9.23 11.41 .2.09 .4.27
Hafod y Llyn Dep .7.45 10.03 12.21 .2.49 .5.07
Penrhyn Dep .8.22 10.40 12.58 .3.26 .5.54
Porthmadog Arr .8.47 11.05 .1.23 .3.51 .6.09



[edit] 1st November 1875

No Sunday service

Down
am am am pm pm pm
Monday only
Porthmadog 6.00 8.00 10.35 1.00 3.20 5.00
Minffordd Junc. 6.10 8.10 10.45 1.10 3.30 5.10
Penrhyn 6.21 8.21 10.56 1.20 3.40 5.19
Tan y Bwlch 6.42 8.42 11.19 1.44 4.05 5.47
Tan-y-Grisiau 7.09 9.09 11.44 2.09 4.30 6.14
Duffws 7.17 9.17 11.52 2.15 4.38 6.20


Up
am am am pm pm pm
Duffws 6.12 8.12 10.50 1.15 3.35 5.15
Tan-y-Grisiau 6.19 8.19 10.56 1.22 3.42 5.22
Tan y Bwlch 6.42 8.42 11.19 1.44 4.05 5.47
Penrhyn 7.00 9.06 11.41 2.06 4.23 6.07
Minffordd Junc. 7.05 9.13 11.46 2.15 4.30 6.12
Porthmadog 7.15 9.23 11.56 2.25 4.40 6.22


The 1.15 pm departure from Duffws was shown as having low fare carriages on Saturday only

[edit] Up/Down Slate Trains for July, August and September 1890

Up Empty Trains
am am am am pm pm pm
Porthmadog 5.35 6.45 8.30 10.40 12.50 3.20 4.50
Minffordd Junc. 5.45 6.55 8.40 10.50 1.00 3.30 5.00
Dinas Junction 6.30 7.42 9.25 11.37 1.45 4.18 5.48


Down Loaded Trains
1 / am 2 / am 3 / am 4 / am 5 / pm 6 / pm 7 / pm
Dinas Junction .6.55 .8.30 10.50 12.50 .1.30 .3.25 .5.00
Tan-y-Grisiau .6.58 .8.40 10.56 .1.00 .1.36 .3.31 .5.06
Tan y Bwlch .7.18 .9.03 11.13 .1.23 .1.53 .3.53 .5.23
Penrhyn .7.35 .9.20 11.30 .1.40 .2.10 .4.13 .5.40
Minffordd Junc. .7.38 .9.23 11.33 .1.43 .2.13 .4.13 .5.43
Porthmadog .7.30 .9.30 10.15 12.30 .3.00 .0.00 .5.15 .0.00


The solitary 07:30 at Port on the Down timetable and the 2 "0.00" times are unexplained The 12.50pm Dinas departure was Monday - Friday only, whilst the 1.30pm was Saturdays only

[edit] Public Timetable For November 1890

Edited to show FR only - Original showing connections through to Chester and Bala

Up Trains
1 / am 2 / am 3 / am 4 / .. 5 / pm 6 / pm 7 / pm
Porthmadog Dep .5.35 .8.30 11.18 .2.10 .5.10
Minffordd Junc. .5.45 .8.40 11.28 .2.20 .5.20
Penrhyn Station .5.49 .8.45 11.33 .2.25 .5.25
Tan y Bwlch .6.07 .9.05 11.53 .2.45 .5.45
Dduallt A A A Sat
Tanygrisiau .7.55 .9.10 11.55 .1.55 .4.15 .5.20
Blaenau Ffestiniog .7.55 .9.10 11.55 .1.55 .4.15 .5.20
Duffws Arr .7.55 .9.10 11.55 .1.55 .4.15 .5.20


The 5.35 am departure from Porthmadog was the "Parliamentary"

Down Trains
am am pm pm pm pm pm
Duffws Arr .7.55 .9.10 11.55 .1.55 .4.15 .5.20
Blaenau Ffestiniog .7.55 .9.10 11.55 .1.55 .4.15 .5.20
Tanygrisiau .7.55 .9.10 11.55 .1.55 .4.15 .5.20
Dduallt A A A Sat
Tan y Bwlch .6.07 .9.05 11.53 .2.45 .5.45
Penrhyn Station .5.49 .8.45 11.33 .2.25 .5.25
Minffordd Junc. .5.45 .8.40 11.28 .2.20 .5.20
Porthmadog Dep .5.35 .8.30 11.18 .2.10 .5.10


The 12.28 and 5.15 pm departure from Duffws were the "Parliamentary"


[edit] Up/Down Slate Trains for July, August and September 1897

Up Empty Trains
1 / am 2 / am 3 / am 4 / pm 5 / pm 6 / pm 7 / pm
Porthmadog Dep .7.00 .8.15 11.00 .1.00 .3.15 .4.25
Minffordd Junc. Dep .7.10 .8.25 11.10 .1.10 .3.25 .4.35
Tan y Bwlch Dep .7.35 .8.50 11.35 .1.35 .3.50 .5.00
Dinas Junction Arr .7.55 .9.10 11.55 .1.55 .4.15 .5.20


Down Loaded Trains
1 / am 2 / am 3 / am 4 / pm 5 / pm 6 / pm 7 / pm
Dinas Junction Dep .6.55 .9.20 .2.00 .4.30
Tan-y-Grisiau Dep .7.05 .9.23 .2.03 .4.33
Tan y Bwlch Arr .7.25 .4.50
Tan y Bwlch Dep .7.55 .9.40 .2.20 .5.20
Penrhyn Dep .8.12 .9.57 .2.37 .5.37
Minffordd Junc. Arr .8.15 10.00 .2.40 .5.40
Porthmadog Arr .9.15 11.30 .4.00 .6.00


The 7.25am and 4.50pm Down trains at Tan y Bwlch and 10.00am and 2.40pm at Minffordd cross with passenger trains. The 2.40 pm Saturday arriving at Minfordd, stops and continues trip on Monday arriving Porthmadog 7.30 am

[edit] Public Timetable For July August September 1902

Edited to show FR only - Original showing connections through to Aberystwyth, Bala and Chester

Up Trains
1 / am 2 / am 3 / am 4 / am 5 / am 6 / pm 7 / pm 8 / pm 9 / pm
Porthmadog Dep .5.35 .6.30 .8.20 .9.50 10.50 .1.00 .3.30 .4.45 .6.50
Minffordd Junc. " .5.45 .6.40 .8.30 10.00 11.00 .1.15 .3.40 .4.55 .6.58
Penrhyn Station " .5.50 .6.45 .8.35 ...... 11.05 .1.18 .3.45 .5.00 .7.03
Tan y Bwlch " .6.10 .7.05 .8.55 10.18 11.25 .1.35 .4.05 .5.20 .7.21
Dduallt " .6.20 ..A.. ..A.. 10.28 ..A.. ..A.. ..A.. ..A.. ..A..
Tanygrisiau " .6.28 .7.23 .9.13 10.38 11.43 .1.53 .4.23 .5.38 .7.41
Stesion Fein " .6.33 .7.28 .9.18 10.43 11.48 .1.58 .4.28 .5.43 .7.46
Blaenau Ffestiniog " ...... ...... .9.19 10.45 11.50 .2.00 .4.30 .5.45 ......
Duffws Arr .6.35 .7.30 .9.20 10.45 11.50 .2.00 .4.30 .5.45 .7.48


The 6.30 am Porthmadog departure was the "Parliamentary" / Quarrymans. There was also a note (B) that this train would leave at 5:45 am Mondays only

Down Trains
1 / am 2 / am 3 / am 4 / am 5 / pm 6 / pm 7 / pm 8 / pm 9 / pm 10 / pm
Duffws Dep .6.40 .8.30 .9.50 11.55 12.25 .1.10 .3.40 .4.55 .5.50 6.55
Blaenau Ffestiniog " ...... ...... .951 11.56 ...... .1.11 ...... .4.56 ...... .6.56
Stesion Fein " .6.42 .8.32 .9.53 11.57 12.29 .1.12 .3.42 .4.58 .5.52 .6.57
Tanygrisiau " .6.47 .8.37 .9.58 12.02 12.38 1.17 3.47 5.02 5.57 .7.02
Dduallt " ..A.. ..A.. ..A.. 12.10 12.45 .1.25 .3.55 .5.10 .6.05 .7.09
Tan y Bwlch " .7.05 .8.55 10.18 12.20 12.58 .1.35 .4.05 .5.20 .6.15 .7.21
Penrhyn Station " .7.25 .9.15 10.36 12.40 .1.18 .1.55 .4.23 .5.38 .6.35 .7.38
Minffordd Junc. " .7.30 .9.20 10.40 12.45 .1.23 .2.00 .4.27 .5.45 .6.10 .7.42
Porthmadog Arr .7.40 .9.30 10.50 12.55 .1.33 .2.10 .4.35 .5.55 .6.50 .7.52


Stesion Fein is shown as Blaenau Ffestiniog (LNWR) of original document - amended here only for clarity

A = Stops by Signal to take UP and set DOWN when required. Notice to be given to guard at preceeding station.
On Saturdays only the 12.25 Duffws departure was a Quarrymans train.
Monday to Friday the 5.50 pn Duffws departure was a Quarrymans train.


[edit] Combined 1924 Working Timetables

Down
Location A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U
Time am am am am am am am am pm pm pm pm pm pm pm pm pm pm pm pm pm
Days SO SX SX SX SX
Waenfawr Arr 08:28 12:22 12:42 15:07 16:32 19:27 1 21:42
Waenfawr Dep 08:31 12:23 12:43 15:08 16:33 19:28 21:43
Bettws Garmon Dep 08:35 14:29 l
Salem Dep A A A l
Plas y Nant Dep A A A A A A i A
Quellyn Lake Arr 12:41 13:02 13:53 15:28 16:52 17:39 19:48 t 22:00
Quellyn Lake Dep 08:50 X X X
South Snowdon, RD Arr 08:58 12:42 13:03 13:54 15:31 16:54 17:40 19:49 y 20:01
12:55 13:16 15:43 17:07 20:01 l
South Snowdon, RD Dep 09:01 12:56 13:17 15:44 17:08 20:02 n A
Pitt's Head Dep A 13:02 13:21 14:34 15:50 17:13 18:00 20:08 o 20:19
Hafod Ruffydd Dep A 13:04 13:35 15:52 15:30 17:15 18:02 20:10 20:21
Beddgelert Arr 09:26 t
a
Beddgelert Dep 09:30 S
Nantmor (Aberglaslyn)]] Dep 09:38 &
Hafod y Llyn (Old WHR) Dep A 13:14 13:44 16:02 15:45 17:25 18:11 20:20 r 22:30
Hafod Garregog (or Ynysferlas) Dep A 13:15 13:45 16:03 17:27 u
Croesor Junction Arr 09:52 13:19 13:49 16:07 17:31 h
X X X X X T
Croesor Junction Dep 09:56 10:45 13:25 14:25 16:13 17:40 19:35
Ynysfor (Llanfrothen) Dep 09:59
Pont Croesor (Prenteg) Dep 10:03
Gelert's Sidings Arr 10:58 13:33 14:33 16:21 17:48 19:43
Gelert's Sidings Dep 11:13 13:38 14:38 16:26 17:53 19:48
Portmadoc New (1923) Arr 10:12 11:14 13:41 14:41 16:29 17:56 19:52
x X X
Portmadoc New (1923) Dep 10:28 11:05 13:44 14:44 16:31 17:58 19:55
Harbour Station Arr 10:32 11:09 A A A A A
Harbour Station Dep 05:15 07:40 08:15 10:33 11:12 12:45 A A A A A
Boston Lodge Halt Arr 13:55 14:56 16:42 18:09 20:06
Boston Lodge Halt Dep 14:06 15:07 16:53 18:20 20:17
Minffordd Wharf / Weighbridge Arr 08:22 11:21 X X X
Minffordd Wharf / Weighbridge Dep 08:26 11:23 15:25 16:56 18:24
Minffordd Arr 05:24 07:59 08:27 10:42 11:24 13:00 A A A
A A A
Minffordd Dep 05:25 08:29 10:43 11:26 15:55 17:26 18:54
Penrhyn Arr 05:30 08:33 10:47 11:30 X X
Penrhyn Dep 05:31 08:34 10:48 11:31 15:57 17:32 18:57
Tan-Y-Bwlch Arr 05:49 08:52 11:02 11:53 16:05 17:40 19:05
X x 16:08 17:43 19:08
Tan-Y-Bwlch Dep 05:53 08:55 11:06 11:57 A A A
Dduallt Dep A A A A A A
Moelwyn Halt Dep A 07:40 10:27 16:19 17:54 19:19
Tanygrisiau Arr 06:11 09:12 12:13 16:24 17:59 19:24
Tanygrisiau Dep 06:12 09:14 12:15 16:27 18:01 19:27
Glanypwll Dep 08:00 10:47 X 15:55
Stesion Fein BF LNWR Arr 06:17 09:19 11:27 12:20 16:34 18:08 16:20 19:34
Stesion Fein BF LNWR Dep 06:18 09:20 11:28 12:21 16:37 18:10 16:24 19:37
Blaenau Ffestiniog GWR Arr 06:20 09:21 11:29 12:22 16:45 18:18 16:35 19:45
Location A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q A Passenger & Goods
Time am am am am am am am am am am pm pm pm pm pm pm pm B Minerals (Brooks) ®
Days SX SX C Slates ®
Stesion Fein BF LNWR Arr 06:51 09:31 11:36 09:58 12:08 13:35 15:13 17:48 Stes G Minerals (Brooks) ®
Stesion Fein BF LNWR Dep 06:52 09:32 11:37 10:01 12:11 13:45 15:16 17:51 Stes H Tractor, Goods, etc ®
Glanypwll Dep 07:15 08:10 10:00 14:11 Glan I Passenger
Tanygrisiau Arr 06:56 09:36 10:08 12:18 15:23 17:58 Tany J Passenger & Goods
Tanygrisiau Dep 06:57 09:37 10:11 12:21 15:26 18:00 Tany K Minerals (Brooks) ®
Moelwyn Halt Arr 06:59 07:27 10:12 10:15 12:25 15:30 18:04 Moel L Passenger & Goods
Moelwyn Halt Dep 07:00 A A A A Moel M Goods & Minerals ®
Dduallt Dep A A A A A Ddua N Passenger
Tan-Y-Bwlch Arr 07:14 08:50 09:53 11:56 Tan- O Passenger
X X 10:30 12:40 15:45 18:19 P Passenger
Tan-Y-Bwlch Dep 07:15 08:53 09:54 12:02 10:40 12:49 15:54 18:28 Tan- Q Passenger
Penrhyn Arr 07:28 10:07 X X X X Penr
Penrhyn Dep 07:29 10:08 A 10:57 12:52 15:59 19:00 Penr
Minffordd Arr 07:34 09:33 10:12 12:24 A A A A Minf
12:30 A A A A
Minffordd Dep 07:35 10:13 11:30 11:22 13:17 19:25 Minf
Minffordd Wharf / Weighbridge Arr X Minf
Minffordd Wharf / Weighbridge Dep 12:15 13:20 X X 19:29 Minf
Boston Lodge Halt Arr 07:40 12:23 13:28 15:15 16:58 19:37 20:30 Bost
Boston Lodge Halt Dep 07:44 15:23 17:06 20:38 Bost
Harbour Station Arr 07:48 10:22 11:45 A A A A A A Harb
Harbour Station Dep 09:20 10:10 10:23 A A A A A A Harb
Portmadoc New (1923) Arr 09:25 10:27 12:45 12:37 13:42 15:37 17:20 19:51 20:52 PN
X X X X
Portmadoc New (1923) Dep 09:38 11:25 13:25 12:40 13:45 15:39 17:22 19:54 20:53 PN
Gelert's Sidings Arr 12:44 13:52 15:44 17:26 19:59 21:00 Gele
Gelert's Sidings Dep 12:48 13:57 15:49 17:30 20:03 21:05 Gele
Pont Croesor (Prenteg) Dep 09:46 11:33 13:33 Pont
Ynysfor (Llanfrothen) Dep 09:51 11:38 13:38 Ynys
Croesor Junction Arr 09:54 10:35 11:41 13:41 12:58 14:05 15:57 17:38 20:12 21:13 Croe
X X X X X
Croesor Junction Dep 09:57 11:44 13:44 13:20 14:40 16:10 18:05 20:20 21:15 Croe
Hafod Garregog (or Ynysferlas) Dep A A A 13:24 14:44 16:14 18:09 20:24 21:19 Hafo
Hafod y Llyn (Old WHR) Dep A A A 13:25 14:50 16:15 18:12 20:28 Hafo
Nantmor (Aberglaslyn)]] Dep 10:08 11:55 13:55 Nant
Beddgelert Arr 10:20 12:07 14:06 Bedd
X 14:59
Beddgelert Dep 10:24 12:11 15:03 Bedd
Hafod Ruffydd Dep A A 13:33 15:04 16:24 18:20 20:37 Hafo
Pitt's Head Dep A A X Pitt
South Snowdon, RD Arr 10:54 12:41 13:34 15:10 16:26 18:21 20:38 Sout
X X 13:38 15:14 16:30 18:25 20:42
South Snowdon, RD Dep 10:56 13:00 13:39 15:15 16:31 18:26 20:43 Sout
Quellyn Lake Arr 11:04 13:08 13:53 15:30 16:46 18:41 20:58 Quel
Quellyn Lake Dep 11:08 13:11 X X X Quel
Plas y Nant Dep A A 13:57 15:34 16:53 18:44 21:01 Plas
Salem Dep A A A A A A A Sale
Bettws Garmon Dep 11:19 13:22 14:45 A Bett
Waenfawr Arr 11:25 13:27 14:12 15:49 17:08 19:00 21:16 Waen
Waenfawr Dep 11:27 13:30 14:14 15:51 17:10 19:01 21:18 Waen
Bryngwyn Arr 15:04 Bryn
Tryfan Junction Arr 11:34 13:37 14:19 15:58 17:15 19:06 21:23 Tryf
Tryfan Junction Dep 11:36 13:40 14:20 15:59 19:07 21:24 Tryf
Dinas Junction Dep 11:44 13:48 14:21 16:00 19:08 21:25 Dina


[edit] 12 October 1933

UP Down
Up Down
Porthmadog .5.20 am .5.27pm
Minffordd .5.30 am .5.17pm
Penrhyn .5.35 am .5.10pm
Tan y Bwlch .5.55 am .4.48pm
Dduallt A A
Moelwyn Halt A A
Tan-y-Grisiau .6.15 am .4.28pm
B Festiniog(LMS) .6.20 am .4.23pm
B Festiniog(GWR) .6.23 am .4.20pm


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