I see we now have a page for FR Permanent Way, but not for RhE/WHR. Perhaps we should be consistent? Indeed I wonder whether the category should be called Infrastructure? I don't much care for this modern word, but it does indicate that the under-line structures are included. On the FR there are some dry stone embankments (including probably the biggest in the country) but few bridges - the delightful cast iron structure below Tan y Bwlch is one, the stone arch in Gwyndy Bank is another, the Fox/Schumann concrete bridges on the Deviation and the Savage wooden bridge across Afon Barlwyd. A few minor underpasses. RhE has a profusion of sizeable bridges including two real viaducts by C.E. Spooner, the 1880 Glanrafon Bridge of what, 90ft?, span, the three new Sreeves trussed girder bridges and the eight-span viaduct across Afon Glaslyn (also by John Sreeves). Many lesser bridges too, including those humpback girder bridges and the secondhand bridge across Afon Gwyrfai at Betws Garmon. Worth recording all these in our index.
Site log on Deviation
There is no mention of works immediately above Dduallt Station - the cutting at the back (site minus One), the curve at the top leading round the hill (site 1) the Deviation Stone and Cei a'r Bont, the embankment to the bridge. Or am I not looking in the right places, please? I still have springtime memories of the cuckoo in the woods cheerfully mocking us - but I haven't heard a cuckoo in years now. P. Pnjarvis (talk) 13:45, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
Try FR Locations for a full (I hope) list of Deviation sites, and Numbered Sites for an overview of the early works with links to the individual sites. I tidied these up a bit some time ago and I think they now tie in with the contemporary accounts in FRM. George Cash (talk) 10:55, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
Necessary leading zeros
Your so-called unnecessary leading zeros are indeed necessary to make the column sort correctly. :-(
Pray, how so ? Feet and inches are generally listed without preceding zeroes and they seem superfluous in this case. I defer to wiser judgement, but zeroes before feet and inches are new to me - I was taught the previous usage at a Welsh primary school quite a while ago and it has not hitherto been questioned. Was my teacher in error ? PedrPnjarvis (talk) 11:55, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
The leading zero issue is because of limitations of wikipedia. In particular the 60yd tunnel length does not sort in size order, unless you have a leading zero, so that all tunnel lengths values are 3 digits. Festipedia is a version of wikipedia and suffers the same limitations.
When sorting by tunnel length, the values are:
- 60yd (out of order; should be lowest value (60<275); needs "060" to sort first as lowest value).
- and similarly for the Grade, Height and Width columns.
- I don't think that your maths teacher had experienced wikis. FarleyBrook (talk) 04:20, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- Pardon me butting in here but can I enquire why the table needs to be sortable at all? It's only a list and quite s short one. George Cash (talk) 10:55, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
I would agree with George. P.